Hopes True Part in Douglass Life - The Bold and the Beautiful

If I remember correctly, when Thomas signed joint custody of Douglas to Hope, it was so she could have something like Executive Privilege of Douglas to help and make decisions for him until Thomas got his head on straight. Douglas called her that revolting title of “mommy Hope” and it was as a fill in for Caroline; not as his real mom.

Hope and Liam, who didn’t was Douglas to begin with, have made Douglas believe that he is their true son and Beth’s real brother.

This wasn’t Thomas’s intent. He wanted to marry Hope, but she refused and then Hope and Brooke connived to basically try to take all the parental rights from Thomas and essentially steal Douglas.

Brooke goes on about Douglas being Beth’s brother, but I have never seen her interact with him other than when she tried to bribe him not to say anything about seeing Deacon on New Year’s Eve. She is no more concerned about Douglas than the man in the moon.

So in conclusion, Thomas is Douglas’s true relative as his father, Hope is NOT his mother, and therefore she needs to stop trying to keep him in her home so she can control Douglas’s life. And Liam is not a father to Douglas and I believe he would be fine if Thomas took him back. (I miss the original Douglas. I always wanted to reach in and squeeze him.)

Hope needs therapy and should take Brooke with her.

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I think you have described the position almost as I think, so well done…I believe you are right…except…
Even though I don’t think Douglas should as yet be calling Hope mummy, It is too soon after losing his mother I feel, I do believe she is a mother figure, and she should

Be able to have a place in the life of Douglas, but Thomas should have prime custody…everything else I 100% agree…

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An adoptive parent is as real as a parent as any. Hope has raised and taken care of Douglas when no one else did. Thomas was unable to but now that he can, like parents to any child discuss living arrangements and include Douglas.

And paperwork does not make Hope any less of a mom to Douglas. She raised him. Douglas calls and sees her as his mom rather viewers like it or not. Thomas accepted Hope has Douglas’s mom. He is respectfully easing her fear of change and hope these two figure it out without a war.

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Hope has been fulfilling the role of Douglas mother for several years. Hope may not be his biological mother but she is a real mother to Douglas. Douglas thinks of Hope as his real mother since he has no other mother. I believe that Thomas will always think of Hope as Douglas mother. Thomas does not want to end the mother/son relationship. Thomas respects Hope and the work that she has done in raising Douglas but know he feels that he is better and he wants a chance to be a full time father instead of fun uncle. I don´t think that Thomas is trying to exclude Hope and the family that Douglas has found with her. Thomas realizes that Douglas will want to spend time with the Lope family.

Part of me can understand why Steffy feels that it is still a Forrester vs Logan battle because Brooke and Hope are saying that Douglas can not leave his home with Lope. They are saying that Douglas can not live with Thomas. I get the feeling that Douglas does not get to spend much time with his Forrester side of the family. Since Douglas moved in with Hope we have mainly just seen Thomas and Douglas spend time on the Logan compound. I am trying to recall how often we have seen Douglas at Steffy´s or Eric´s. I know Douglas was at Eric´s Christmas Eve. He was supposedly at Steffy´s for a family dinner after NY but he was called back home. Then he was also at Steffy´s when he finally told them about Brooke kissing Santa Claus Deacon on NYE.

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My concern is that Hope has too many people on her side that are refusing to accept the fact that Thomas wants to be a parent raising his son.

I think that the only person on Thomas side that figure that Douglas needs to be with Thomas permanently is Steffy. Taylor told Brooke that Douglas´ living arrangements are not hers to make. Yes she does support Douglas living with Thomas but that working out Douglas living arrangements is between Thomas and Hope. I think that Taylor and Ridge would be fine with a 50/50 custody arrangements. Douglas probably attends a private school so living in two homes would not be a problem. People on the board are saying that Brooke and Eric´s homes are close together but I am not sure how close although it never seems to take Brooke long to get from her place to Eric´s.

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For all intents and purposes Hope is Douglas’ mother whether we like it or not, because that’s the way she’s being written. If that’s the narrative the writers want then okay. In spite of the nasty way Hope acted to get Douglas, he loves her and thinks of her as his mother. And they seem to have changed Liam’s perspective too, as he was never in favour of having Douglas live with him. But Douglas has been there for a while so Liam must have accepted the situation and allowed Hope to get her way. It sticks with me, though, that Hope persists in calling Beth Douglas’ sister because she’s not, she’s his cousin first and foremost.

I agree that both Hope and Brooke need therapy, but separately not together. Hope could benefit from someone to listen because Brooke never really does. She hears Hope say ‘I want’ loud and clear and rushes in to make it happen but she never hears when Hope start questioning her own or Brooke’s decisions or judgements.

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I think Hope would really benefit from having an outsider she could confide in and talk frankly to about her relationship with her mother.

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Hope and Wyatt are alike when it comes to their mothers giving them what they want. They may protest their mothers going way above to get them their hearts desire but they reap the benefits of what their mothers has given them and doesn’t say another word.

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Hey, if Taylor hadn’t prioritized her ‘work’ over her family, she would have come in and stepped in for Thomas, and he would have never gone to Hope.

Why is everyone fighting about this now??? Why didn’t the very rich Steffy, who let’s practically everyone camp at her house, step in and be the parent for her own nephew? Why didn’t Ridge?

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I don’t think about why didn’t Taylor step in and take care of Dougla because she was not on the show at the time. Steffy was going thru heart break at the time losing one of her little girls.

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Well said blood don’t make you a family love does. Hope has been there day and night a lot of viewers can’t and don’t want to see that .Taylor asked Hope to look after Douglas when she left years ago. No that she’s back she was telling Thomas he needed to get his son back from Hope . Is this Taylor because of her feelings of walking out on her kids and leaving them? Brooke was there for her kids helping Ridge raising the kids. Also Ridge didn’t abandon his kids he was there every day with them. Yes Thomas is his bio father but he too also wanted Hope to be Douglas mom. Everyone should back away and let Thomas and Hope talk it threw.

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Taylor did offer to help Thomas with Douglas but Thomas told her that he was going to be living with Ridge and Brooke with Hope and Liam near by so he felt that he had enough help.

When Brooke and Hope came at Thomas wanting him to sign away any rights to his son Ridge did come and pick up Douglas and Thomas and they went to live with Eric. Douglas lived at Eric´s until the botched wedding with Zoe. We were not priviledged to Hope´s conversation with Douglas but it ended with Douglas telling his father that he was going to live with Hope. I do think that Hope painted Thomas in the worst light possible but we only know that Douglas was angry with his father and told him that he was going to live with Lope. Because Thomas had used Zoe to get to Hope everyone in the room supported Douglas decision about where he wanted to live.

It was not a matter of none of the Forresters wanting to take care of Douglas it was a matter of them respecting a child´s wishes.

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I don’t think anyone should interfere. At most they should recommend Thomas and Hope to work it out with Douglas or see a court counselor. Neither side should ignore the parent on the opposite side. I know I’m real life families add their 2 cents, but Brooke and Steffy are too aggressive about it. Brooke wants to make it about her and Steffy keeps talking about a Logan vs. Forester war. I enjoy family wars, but not a fan when they involve young children.

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While Hope is Douglass’s mom, the only Chen fr would be where Douglas lives. And Thomas is offering Hope the same thing she offered him: visitation when he wants. And I agree what Steffy said: Brooke made it a Logan vs. Forrester situation.

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AttackOnTitan: I’m catching up but now Bill is chiming in. Why??

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Probably b/c he knows how lame Liam is and that he would probably just roll over if it came to a custody fight. Bill is there to make sure he fights.
Although AOT is correct, - everyone should butt out and let Hope & Thomas figure it out.

Ridge asked Carter if the papers Hope and Thomas signed were final/permanent. Carter said Thomas could change the papers anytime he wanted to. Adoption papers cannot be changed anytime a person wants to. Unless Bell is rewriting the original papers to adoption papers, Hope would not be Douglas’ mother legally. If Hope adopted Douglas, then she has rights, but she didn’t adopt Douglas. So Thomas is in charge.

I do agree an adoptive mother is the same as a biological, as long as they love the child and take care of him, just like a biological mother does. A blood related mother doesn’t make you good, what makes a good mother is love. But Hope is not an adoptive mother.

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I think many are getting it twisted. I dont think most are disputing that adoptive parents are real parents. In my case I am saying Hope is not Douglas mother because of the way she got him. How she used him and his father to ease of feelings of grief. I watched her and Brooke plot to take a child away that was happy with his father at his father’s grandparents home. I heard her say it was about revenge her plotting to get Douglas
This and many other things disqualifies Hope as this child’s mother. Hope is a nothing character that is constantly force on us as some moral authority that we must love. If we dare to speak about it where TPTB can see it. We are punished by getting more propping for characters that we know would not be doing or saying these wonderful things about her. Think, Steffy going to Lope wedding.
These things don’t make me love her, it makes me hate the character even more. Hope is not Douglas mother adoption or not. Just like Brooke is not Jack’s mother, she threw away him for a man. Just like Hope had threw Douglas away for a man and only picked him back up when she thought she could not have the man. As usual Douglas was her consolation prize. She is a phony and has evil tendencies, just like her mother and father. She needs to stop using that child to boost her ego. It is sickening.

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Great post! This is exactly how I feel. I have the upmost respect for adopted parents. But in my opinion the way that Hope plotted and manipulated before anyone who actually had a claim to Douglas could find out, is no mother in my opinion. In fact I see Hope and Douglas’ relationship as creepy. It should have been a more healthy aunt/nephew relationship in my opinion.

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